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supporters. and critical of the brotherhood's and the salafis' threats against christians, violence against christians, violence against muslims who are known to speak out and oppose them. a few weeks ago there was a very moving op-ed in "the new york times." i was thrilled was there from an egyptian journalist describing what his life is like now due to the level of threats that he's getting from members of the muslim brotherhood. it reminded me so much of algeria in the 1990s. so i think it is so vital that we look at all of this range of threats to human rights in egypt, and in particular and cajun from a talk about and that is the challenge that the ideology of islamism itself poses for human rights. that was the ideology of muslim brotherhood sought to impose on egyptian population when it was in power. that was not the ideology that people revolted for back in 2011. they wanted more freedom am and
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what they unfortunately was less, especially less freedom for women. ..
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chapman hall in a half hour and he is going to talk about his newest book. first we will talk with congressman deb >> host: representative wasserman-schultz, you said in your presentation three years writing this. >> guest: yes. >> host: why? >> guest: well, about four months after i diseased to -- decided to move forward with writing the book, president obama asked me to take on another full-time job in chairing the democratic national committee, and i felt like in
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order to really do the book justice and do my job justice, coming out with a policy book during the presidential campaign probably wasn't the best idea, so we pushed the book forward a year. and writing and came out in october. >> by the time this book is published you write i hope we will look back on the health care reform and debt ceiling and knowledge it was rock bottom. i don't want to imagine how it would get worse. >> well, just when you thought it could not get worse, we end up having the republicans and tea party stopping the government to stop people from getting quality, affordable health care. >> who is the next generation? >> that is our children. i wrote thigs through the lens f
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being mother. even though politicians talk about the next generation, it isn't abstract concepts for me. i have one in the back of my car. i wrote the book to say we have to measure the success by how well our children are doing. and we have to get engaged in issues that matter to us. >> representative will we with us for the next 25 minutes. the numbers are on the screen and if you would like to call. 202-585-3890 for those of you in the eastern. and 202-585-3891 in the mountain time. and you can send a tweet at booktv if you cannot get through
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on the phone lines. you talk about the patriot act and spying. in 2011, when passed, most of the congress voted for it. how would you have voted? i happ i know it isn't a fair question. >> i was in congress when we vote for the reauthorization and i voted against them. they didn't strike a balance between protecting our privacy and security. there were versions i voted for. it is hard to see how i would vote in 2011. but we have to find the balance and we need to continue our quest to strike it because i am not sure we have there. >> edward snowden, has he done the nation a favor? >> he is a trader.
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he has dramatically damaged our country and shouldn't be looked out as a patriot. he compromised national security and violated an oath he took and did serious damage in the united states of america. >> one of the terms you use, bipartisanship, in your presentation earlier, you talked about the dinners and things you do, but how do you maintain bipa bipa bipartsenship? >> the easy thing to do is default to our respective corners and dig in. as the chair of the democratic national committee, i support my party's agenda, but i recognize
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it can't be my way or the highway. we don't have enough people that believe that. so it is my responsibility to reach congress the aisle and find republicans we can work with. but there are a precious few. many are worried about loosing their elections. you cannot have people in congress that care more about power than the right thing >>. >> are they suspiuspicious of y? >> there are some. but we hold dinners to clear away perceptions that our roles create. >> one thing you wrote in the book is that obamacare/affordable care act
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can be altered. is that a fair assessment? >> like any legislation. what i wrote about the affordable care act/obamacare in the book is that just like legislation we have had for more than 200 years, when there are problems we need to sit down and work together. we don't need to go through 43 different attempts to repeal or deny people the access to health care. the affordable care act is a bill that was passed by both houses, sieb signed by the president and upheld by the supreme court. as problems arise, we should sit down and commit to work together. but republicans have to agree on the basic premises that health
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care is a right, not a privilege. >> other other issue: energy independence. what did you propose that is different? >> we have to wean off fossil fuels. investing in alternate energy resources while engaging in an all of the above strategy. we are getting to the point where we are exporting natural gas. but we have to have the all above strategy. not drill baby drill. >> who is the next generation of leaders in congress? would you like to be speaker of the house? >> i am focused on what is in
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front of me and that is doing the best i can for the 23ered congressional district. >> who is the next generation of leaders in the house? on both sides. >> there are a number of members on both sides of the aisle that are building toward positions of leadership but i think probably better to leave that question to others. i know nancy has her list and i was included in and pleased to be asked to be a part of the leadership and serve. so you know, right now, we have to focus on working together and getting things turned around. >> first elected congress in 2004. first call from collene.
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go ahead. >> yes. i would just like to ask, or maybe make a statement, i would like to know why republicans think that everybody in this country wants to think like them. why they can't figure that some people don't want their opinions or actions especially whether the came to choking the country in the name of the affordable care act because they didn't like it and figured that would work. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. that is one of the points i make in the book. and that we have to stop with the my way or highway politics. even as chair of the dnc, i support my party's agenda and fought like heck to make sure
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week get it adopted, but i recognize there are other people that have valuable opinions and it is important to reach across the aisle to get common grounds. we need more people on the other side to embrace that conflict and i think we'll be able to get more done >> who are your best friends on the republican side? >> lamar smith. he is amazing. >> i am surprised you and smith. >> we have been the co-spon ser of many bills. you couldn't be more polar opposites, but there are a few should see that matter to both of us. i invited him and he came to my
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district in south florida and we did a round table on child protect and did a property tour to learn about the import ps of protecting property. >> have you visit him in texas? >> we enjoy working together and set aside the issues that we don't agree on. >> next call comes from neal in wellington, florida. you are on booktv. hi. >> thank you for taking my call. i wanted to say debby you have to best smile of anyone i know in congress. keep it up. and visit wellington. okay? >> thank you. thank you. >> you are welcome. >> thank you. >> that was it.
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>> richard in pleasant grove, utah. what is your question? >> my question is how come obama and the democratic people are writing us down with the social plan to take aware our children, shove health care down our throat we cannot afford and tell us we have to take care of everybody. maybe you people need to read the book and see what hitler did to his people. i am very upset about it. >> let's get a response . >> obviously, i don't share richard's view. and what we are trying to do as democrats under president obama's leadership is focus on what most people's priority is which is creating jobs and
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getting the economy to turn around and long-term issues and get a handle on the safety net programs like social security and medicare. that is the appropriate role for the government and i think most americans agree. which is why they reelected president obama. >> do you think richard's concern? he feels it is being put on him. is that a fair concern? >> i really don't. in this case, accusations like he unfortunately chose to do isn't constructive. i wish folks like him would step back, listen and engage in dialogue and understand the other side's point of view. when you here talk like his, it is evident he is watching fox
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news and gets the information mostly from right-wing conservative sources and isn't open to other points of view. and that is why i wrote the book. hopefully someone finds a way to see we have to try to work together and not dig in so hard and accept everything we hear from one side or another. >> putting on your political hat for a moment. the rollout of the health care website: has it hurt democrats polytically? >> that is not a political issue. it is critical. and obama believes that we have to get the website on so people can get on and comparison shop. so, what it does to us polpoin
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favor isn't the issue. i believe democrats, because of the benefits, that the affordable care act provided to many, we will run as candidates on obamacare as an advantage in the 2014 election. >> this is john and for the next generation. >> i just want to know two questions. what is the difference between daniel osburg and snowden. and how do you determine a right to get health care through working which you neglected in the concept of health care being a right. it is great if we can provide the right for health care to know acquired but when you throw it out there for others to pay
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and not have to do anything for a product/service. if you could explain that, that would be fantastic. >> sure. i think you have a misconception of what the affordable care act does. we are paying right now without the affordable care act we are paying for millions of people who show up at the emergency room that are so sick. the affordable care act care allows them to get the coverage and go to the doctor without the need of the a copay. and stay well instead of going to the emergency room and costing us more. my parents raised me if you
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don't have your health, you don't have anything. so making sure we can insure everybody has the ability to stay healthy makes us a stronger a better country >> where did you grow up? >> on long island and lived there till 18 and moved to florida to go to the university of florida. go gators! >> what did your parents do >> >> both of them live in my hometown now. but my mom was in retail and managed greenhouses for many years. my dad is a cpa. >> and they are down in florida? >> they moved to south florida when the twins were five months old. and i dangled them in front of them and it was an easy choice when i took them home after four days >> next call from kathy in new
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hampshire. >> hi, i am calling -- >> hello, kathy. >> i am calling with an idea and i don't know if it would work, but it might. say you had a 4-5 percent national sales tax on all goods and services and you use this money totally to pay for medicaid. now medicare is taken care of it. so you would cap all of the people not on medicaid and medicare. you would cap the rates that insurance companies could ask of them and lower the price for all of the people that are inbetweens. i wondered what you thought of that idea. >> kathy, why do you think that is a good idea? >> because i think it it would
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be a fair way, and it would bring the rates down, and it would be people could make the choice if they didn't want to pay a national sales tax and if they didn't want to they would not by the skis or the new dress or whatever. and it would just -- i think it would lower the rate of people between medicare/medicaid. >> thank you very much. let's see what congresswoman thinks about that idea. >> thank you. well, kathy, i really feel like the affordable care act was important because it focused beyond just medicare/medicaid.
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medicaid was expanded in the states where you have governors and legislative members that accepted the funds. and we allowed people that slipped in the gaps between qualifying and getting coverage at work. you have a big number of people, almost a million in florida, who fall into the that void. unfortunately our legislators and governor refused to accept the fund sews -- funds so they will not get covered -- we have an individual requirement for health insurance that puts everyone into the pool. adding healthy people wloo whoo are not covered -- who are not -- and we need to work rwaro >> host: for the next generation came out in october with julie spencer as co-author. who's julie spencer?
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>> guest: julie's a new york times best-selling author who was a wonderful person, helped folks me as we -- focus me as we wrote the book, and i tried to tell my story and how i thought we could make the most difference. >> host: where'd you write? >> guest: i did it in new hampshire, believe it or not. we have a family ohm in new hampshire, so when we go up there on breaks, especially in the summer, i would spend a lot of time on that. but with always jobs i have, i had to cram in that time anywhere we could, so we would schedule a specific time so we could focus on it. >> host: have political parties become less significant in the last 30 years, and what do you think about that? >> guest: um, in what way? >> host: do they matter as much? do people care about the democratic party and the republican party like they used to? besides the conventions, what are parties for? >> guest: oh, sure. i think parties absolutely matter. they matter in a different way
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than perhaps decades ago. now they matter because, as always, people who don't have a lot of time and aren't necessarily focused as much researching individual candidates, if they know that they generally identify with one party or another, then supporting that party's candidates is, you know, a safe pathway for making sure they elect people who share their views. but years ago, you know, parties had a more significant role because the campaign finance laws were quite a bit different. unfortunately, the citizens united supreme court decision has really changed the impact that political parties have because now you have this unaccountable, opaque, corporate-infused invasion of corporate donations where they're drowning campaigns and candidates in unaccountable money, and it's really unfortunate.
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it's actually, puts campaigns up for sale even more than campaign finance left -- >> host: does that hurt the dnc and the rnc when it comes to fundraising? >> guest: no. i think we are -- i know at the dnc we've just had our best two months in online fundraising in our history, and that's particularly because i think people are really tired of the gridlock, tired of the tea party being allowed to control the agenda, shutting the government down, being willing to hold the economy hostage all in the name of getting their way on the issues that they care, you know, that matter to them like repealing the affordable care act. i think people look at them as irresponsible because they know that we take a more balanced approach, and we're focused on making sure that everybody has an opportunity to join the middle class and that if you want to succeed, you get a fair shot and a fair shake and the democratic party's policy is focused on that. >> host: another call for debbie
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wasserman shults, this is marilyn in zahn rafael, california. articulating clearly about the health care act. there is no such distortion going on. and ink yee >> caller: we need to explain to people what it means. i'm a retired nurse, means a lot to me. i ordered a book for my young physician daughter who is the next generation just like you, and my other question for you kind of goes to just what was said. how are you going to withstand the pressure to become subdued, to give up your ideals, to stay in politics like i've seen over these generations happen more and more to amazing start-up politicians? how are you going to not have something happen to you? because i think you have an
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amazing future. that's it. >> guest: oh, thank you so much. well, this is my, actually, my 21st year in office. i was elected to the florida house of representatives when i was 26 years old, and i knocked on 25,000 doors in my be first race, and all the good old boys here told me it wasn't my turn, and i kind of went around. so they keep me grounded. i share your concern. there are too many politicians that forget where they came from, and i'm really committed to making sure that, you know, you dance with the one that brung ya, as they say. and the people down here in south florida have definitely given me their support, and i'm so appreciative of it. >> host: and debbie wasserman-schultz is the author as well of this book, "for the next generation." st. martins press is the publisher. thank you for your time. >> guest: thank you so much.
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>> is there an author or book you'd like to see featured on booktv? send us an e-mail or tweet us at >> you're watching booktv. next, newt gingrich argues that we're at the dawn of an age of great breakthroughs in technology, medicine, transportation and other fields, but he warns that this new age may not be reached if we allow the government and other gatekeepers to get in the way. this is about an hour and ten minutes. >> well, one thing i'll give sandy is he knows how to have an entrance. calista and i both want to apologize because we were on an airplane which was going to land with plenty of time and then learned this morning that the airplane wasn't going to leave. [laughter] and i do want to say a brief commercial for more than airlines, it was not their airplane, but they happened to
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have a plane instead of flying direct from washington, they had a plane through dallas, and they went overboard to get us here, make the connections. we had a barely-legal connection in dallas -- [laughter] and they did everything they could to be really helpful. in fact, our luggage didn't make the connection, so it's on the way here now many. and then we had a few more complicationings. so we apologize for running late, and i particularly want to say to you in the reception earlier, we always enjoy having a chance to see you, and we apologize and hope we'll be able to at least get a picture or say something out front later on. now, i don't quite realize that it had been 12 times that we had been here, but it has always mint a lot to me to come here. the first presidential campaign i ever really got involved in as a volunteer was the nixon-lodge campaign of 1960. and for those of you who may
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sometimes despair of republicans in california, i might point out to you that in georgia in 1960 the number of people who were willing to publicly cam indiana for richard nixon or for any republican was a remarkably small number. we held no state legislative offices outside the mountains, and the seats we had in the mountains were a function of the civil war. [laughter] so let me start there, you can understand my whole career has been a series of climbing mountains, and that was one of the longest political nightings of my life, listening as the democrats stole texas and illinois. it was a remarkably close election. so i always come out here with a lot of different i motions -- emotions, and i'm glad to be here tonight. and i'm going to talk about american exceptionalism really in three bites. you know, first of all i'm going to talk a little bit about what calista's been doing which is aimed at teaching 4-8-year-olds
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about american exceptionalism and american history, something which we tragically find more and more of our young people are not learning in school, and so they need help learning it. then i'm going to talk briefly about lincoln and tomorrow's 150th anniversary of what may have been one of the most important speeches in american history and if many ways -- in many ways one of the most important speeches in human history because it described a standard we should meet, and then i'm going to talk about "breakout" which in some ways is the culmination of my 55 years going back to 1958 of trying to understand what we need to do as a country. in '58 my dad was stationed in france, convinced me that somebody had to take responsibility for understanding what america had to do, for learning how to explain it so the american people would give you permission to do it and then for knowing how to implement it if they gave you permission. and i think that's a very important model, and "breakout" is probably the most important
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book i've written because it's an effort to really resenter the system is and to say to adults here's how we got to be an exceptional nation. "breakout" is designed to say to adults here's how we can continue to be an exceptional nation. and if you do read it and you do think it's important, i hope you'll use facebook and twitter and e-mail addresses and what have you and try to spread the word. because the more people we can get telling each other, the better off we're going to be, because the scale of this change i'm going to describe can only come from the grassroots up. it will never come from sacramento, it'll never come from washington. it's impossible to ask bure -- bureaucrats and politicians and lobbyists to get together to voluntarily disarm, and they're not going to do it. so the only way you're going to get change on that scale is to run over them by arousing the american people to a point where they have no choice, and you saw a little bit of that last week when 39 democrats suddenly decided that republican congressman fred upton had a
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terrific idea. [laughter] [applause] so calista and i are very fortunate, we did both and a book and a movie about ronald reagan, and he had a great line, and i think maybe that "breakout" is in that tradition. if we get enough americans to decide this is the right direction, they will eventually get their political figures to follow. leadership is often a function of figuring out where the parade is going and trying to get in it as opposed to actually leading it. let me start with what calista's been doing. alice the elephant is a time-traveling pachyderm who's not a republican pachyderm. he is a 4 to 8-year-old universal pachyderm, okay? [laughter] and we were at a costco saturday signing books, and if you had seen these little kids, we have somebody who plays alice. if you had seen these little kids running up to alice, you'd
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have understood exactly why she invented this character. but her goal has been, first, to talk about all of american history and then to talk about the colonial period and now yankee doodle l dandy, to talk about the american revolution, and she's already beginning to work on a book for next year which will be called from sea to shining sea in which alice helps lewis and clark go to the pacific. and her goal -- and this is, by the way, very hard. "breakout" is my 27th book, and i can tell you that watching her write the ella series, when you have to take facts -- and we're in a small c sense conservative in that we actually want our history books to be factual which is, i think, a very useful model. [laughter] when you have to take a set of facts you think 4 to 8-year-olds can understand and then you have to describe them in rhyme -- [laughter] so it's easy for them to
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remember, and then with the help of her terrific artist, susan, you've got to have a scene which explains what the rhyme is describing. each of her page sections is the equivalent of one of my chapters in effort. it is -- i didn't know this when she first started. i thought, oh, this'll be great, you know, write kids' books. turns out to be really important. but it's extraordinarily important that young americans learn why we are, in fact, an exceptional nation. [applause] now, it's interesting and, in fact, very appropriate to talk about yankee doodle dandy for a second because, of course, the you're going to describe the american revolution, you are describing the declaration of independence. and what makes tomorrow's
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anniversary of lincoln's speech so special is that it is at gettysburg in a two minute speech that lincoln really reunites the country with the deck that ration of independence -- declaration of indimension. for most of our first 80 years of our history, the constitution had been the dominant document. it was the document which framed our law, the document people looked at in terms of what does it mean to be an american and how are we going to structure this very complex country. lincoln comes along, and lincoln says the constitution defines the structure of who we are, but the declaration of indimension tribes -- independence describes the spirit of who we are. by the way, it was entirely appropriate that president obama did not go to gettysburg because
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i think that there's almost nothing in his current pattern which would be worthy of being near abraham lincoln. [applause] and i don't want to be partisan, but i do think it's very important to look in context. lincoln was all about the rule of law. lincoln understood as somebody who had grown up very poor, who had only had about a year and a half of schooling, who had literally learned how to read by the light of a fireplace because his family couldn't afford candles, and lincoln understood that it is the rule of law which protects the weak. it is the rule of law which recollects the average person -- protects the average person. that without the rule of law, it is the predators, the vicious
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and the powerful. and so he saw what we were fighting over as the very essence of freedom and whether or not freedom would survive. and he goes to gettysburg -- this war had gotten much longer, much bloodier, much more difficult than anybody expected. everybody thought it was a 30 to 90-day war. and lincoln is having to explain to the north why is it worth this level of pain? gettysburg was the bloodiest battle of the war, three days, an enormous number of casualties on both sides. and lincoln is having to talk to people, and in virtually every village in america there's a family who's lost somebody. and he's going to run for re-election. now, nobody had been reelected since andrew jack soften. there were a whole series of
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one-term presidents. lincoln's going to run for re-election having failed to win the war. and so if you go back and you read the gettysburg address as a campaign document, was he's having to reach out and appeal to people and basically say to them do not let your son or your cousin or your nephew or your husband have died in vain. don't flinch. don't back off. because this is central to the future of the human race. and he describes a very important thing. this is what, candidly, has made the stunning, unending dishonesty of president obama about, yes, you can keep your policy with can we now know he said at least 39 times because we have it on videotape, at least 39 times. you can't have government of the people -- and lincoln's very clear with this.
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supposedly, in talking with some of the great lincoln experts, and i've written a novel on gettysburg, and calista and i spent time there. she actually got dressed up in an 1860s outfit, and i got dressed up. i was a congressman, she was the congressman's wife, and later she actually appeared in one of our other civil war novels as aous wife who says hostile things to the soldiers about having brought all these poor, dying guys into her home. but we've spent a lot of time looking at gettysburg and being at gettysburg. and you have to understand that lincoln apparently said government of the people, by the people, for the people. and to him, it meant the very heart of american exceptionalism. the we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights among which are life, liberty and the pursuit of
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happiness. and that's why if you can't have an honest debate and an honest conversation, if you can't have an executive officer who, in fact, you can believe in, you begin to undermine the whole system. and i think we are teetering right at the edge. of a pattern of such unending lawlessness, of waiving laws, waiving rules, picking winners and losers that is fundamentally antithetical to the entire american experience. and so i think it's worth every american tomorrow taking a minute to read the gettysburg address. and then hopefully, that will lead them to go back and read the preamble to the declaration of independence. to be reminded what does it mean to be an american. and it's in that context that i set out to write "breakout." because it struck me that we are mired down in sacramento and,
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frankly, most of our city and county governments, in most of our school boards. we are -- and in washington d.c. we are mired down in such petty, destructive, negative politics, surrounded by campaigns of such unending viciousness and dishonesty that the entire fabric of our system's at stake. we need to breakout from this moment in american history. and what i found as i began to look around -- and this is truly what makes this, to me, one of the most extraordinary periods in american history. everywhere you go there are hard working, intelligent people who are pioneers of the to future. and we're inventing things in energy, they're inventing things in transportation, they're inventing things in learning, they're inventing things in going into space, they're
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inventing things in being dramatically more effective. and you go around s and you say show me the most interesting things that are happening right here in california. google has a self-driving car which has covered over 600,000 miles. given the way we came down today, i'm not sure how many hours that took. laugh -- [laughter] in 600,000 miles it has been in one accident, it was rear ended by a human. [laughter] now, this is the beginning of a different world. i was in peoria, illinois, a couple months ago. i went by caterpillar, and i stood next to the largest truck they build which is a 40-ton truck. and they've now sold 24 of them as self-driving trucks to a mine in western australia which is saving a million dollars a year per truck. because it goes down into the


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